Reviewer: The_Real_Hermione
Date: 04/07/13 21:34
Chapter: Chapter 5 - Love
I really love this story, Carole. It's really different to a lot of fanfiction, and you've really researched the Pottermore canon as well as the real history and made them fit together seamlessly in this... plus adding your own parts to the story.
I loved your characterisation of Elizabeth. She was obviously a remarkable woman and had a huge influence on history. I liked how you showed her as strong and someone who knew her own mind, but also fragile at times, and always curious.
I thought Lucius was interesting too - I thought it was interesting that you made him aware of his mothers' hypocrisy in sucking up to muggles when she actually thought herself superior, because of course he does the same thing - he may feel some affection for Elizabeth, but most of his actions are out of his ambition and desire for power. Nonetheless I thought their relationship was very believable, and I liked the way you showed their changing feelings as they grew up.
The falcon and peacock imagery also worked in beautifully and really added to their characterisations.
I also loved your ending and how, even though Lucius curses her to being alone, Elizabeth is emancipated through her own choices. And I am inclined to agree with you that she wouldn't have cared about Lucius' curse.
It was quite funny when I came across this story... I have just spent the last week doing an assignment on Elizabethan poetry and the underlying powerplay between Elizabeth and her courtiers. Anyway that's sort of unrelated... the point is that I really loved this story.
~Katrina
Author's Response: Thank you, Katrina. I have to admit to getting very caught up in this story. I've always been fascinated by that period, so when I discovered a connection on Pottermore, I couldn't wait to write a story. I thn got very caught up in the research and there was so much more I wanted to add, but couldn't because of the challenge constraints. I'm pleased you enjoyed the story and appreciated Elizabeth's emancipation. I sometimes think that had Elizabethe married her reign would have been a lot shorter because it would have been hard finding the right spouse. Remaining single and playing off possible suitors was a shrewd thing to do. In this story, Lucius could have kept her on the throne but I dounbt he'd have been good for England.
Thank you so much for the review ~Carole~
Reviewer: locanena
Date: 03/10/13 1:13
Chapter: Chapter 1 ~ Pavone Bianco
Great story! I love it.
Author's Response: Thank you very much. I enjoyed writing it. :) ~Carole~
Reviewer: hestiajones
Date: 03/02/13 12:54
Chapter: Chapter 2 - The Falcon's Daughter
Hmmm. Does Henry know about the Malfoys? What exactly is the position he holds in the court? I'm finding these a little unclear D: But that may be due to my ignorance about how the Tudor court - or courts of those times - worked.
I'm really enjoying this, Crolololol. I especially love Elizabeth. Her scene at the garden with Lucius reminded me strongly of Lily and Snape.
Author's Response: Hmm, perhaps I need to clarify things. Basically people at Court didn't necessarily hold a position as such (although many of them did). I meant by 'position' his standing at Court and the respect he holds and the benefits of being a rich person at that time. Henry knows the Malfoys but not that they're magic. I discovered when researching this that Henry was the first King to bring in an Anti-Witchcraft Act in 1542/ random.
Thank you for the reviewwwwww. ~Croll
Reviewer: hestiajones
Date: 03/02/13 12:35
Chapter: Chapter 1 ~ Pavone Bianco
OH GODS. VERY INTRIGUED. Also, it just struck me that you haven't called me "cowbag" in a while...
Author's Response: I would never call you cowbag; it's a CALUMNY! Thank you very much for the review. ~Carole~
Reviewer: Ruchira_M
Date: 02/28/13 22:24
Chapter: Chapter 5 - Love
In the name of St.Ottery, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? (although I guess the moment she named him...)
So did Lucius love her at all? Or was it all ambition?
Author's Response: Mwahahahahah - Sorry, I just loved the idea that the original Arthur Weasley was related to the Malfoys and that the red hair came from Elizabeth. This Weasley won;t be a King, but his great great-lots of great- grandson will have a song written about him - heh heh heh.
I think Lucius did love her in his own way. She was certainly the one he wanted, but he was ambitious and manipulative. I think, also, that Elizabeth loved him a little, too, but didn;t want to be under any man's thumb, as it were.
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Thank you for all the reviews. ~Carole~
Reviewer: Gmariam
Date: 02/28/13 20:55
Chapter: Chapter 5 - Love
Eeeeppppppppp! I did NOT see any of that coming! WOW! What an ending!
First of all, I didn't think Lucius was that manipulative. I guess I wanted to believe better. Yes, he seems genuinely fond of Elizabeth, but it's like that was just a lucky coincidence because he's still manipulating her (or trying, anyway) and using her and just pah. Stupid Malfoys. >.<
Then the part with Elizabeth getting pregnant, and having a child, and giving it up, and naming it Arthur! GAH! Is that a rumour you came across in your research, or all fiction? It's so sad! But then--the family Kat placed him with! Omg! THAT WAS SO COOL!
Seriously, what a lovely, delicious, touching, appropriate, and just plain old neat twist. I loved it. It was just so...unexpected and yet perfect when it happened. Of course the Weasleys got their ginger hair from Elizabeth!!
But then you bring it back to reality with the bit about the curse. I did not know that was on Pottermore, so kudos to JKR for thinking it up, but more kudos to you for working it in so naturally. Very, very cool.
Sorry if I keep using the word cool. It's just the only word my limited vocabulary can think of, which sort of sucks because it's definitely an out of era word for this story!
So let me try to be more articulate.
I think you've done a great job with this. It caught me up from the very beginning. I know next to nothing about the time period, but could sense your research was deep. Writing in this style and time seemed almost effortless for you. Your own interest for the time really came through. I could really see you doing more--dare I say OF??--in this time period.
I loved your characters. I know they were historical figures, but by bringing them into the Potterverse, you made them your own, and completely believable at the same time. Elizabeth, Kat, Lucius--even the minor characters leapt off the screen. Well done.
I loved the story so very much, Carole. Wonderful job. Congrats on something really, really unique!
~Gina :)
PS. I am sorry I've fallen behind on your others! I will catch up soon!
Author's Response: Thank youuu. I am so pleased this works from the persepctive of someone that doesn't know the time period at all. It was touch trying not to info dump but knowing certain things needed explaining.
There were rumours at one poiint that Elizabeth had had a child with Robert Dudley, or had at least become pregnant and then miscarried, but historians generally agree that it was just gossip, so I doubt it happened. I just saw this window in her life where she was locked up, and if no one could get in except someone who could Apparate ... Mwahahahahahahahahahha.
Lucius was idiotically manipulative, but that's Malfoy's for you. I think if he'd been less blatant and less manipulative, then Elizabeth might have married him. And yes, he loved her, or at least he wanted her more than anyone else.
I am really sertiously considering an OF version of this. It really did suck me in, buit do need to take a step back, I think, and assess what I've got here. There was so much I could have expanded, so I need to look at that first.
Thank you so much for your reviews, they really have been much appreciated.
Carole
Reviewer: Redwing
Date: 02/28/13 17:48
Chapter: Chapter 5 - Love
AHHHHH! What a perfect twist! Much love for the idea that a Malfoy was the unwitting forefather of the Weasley line, and that Elizabeth's magic lived on. And I'm glad that Lucius was a bit of a jerk at the end, so I didn't feel as bad about him and Elizabeth not ending up together.
Author's Response: He was a jerk! ha ha - yeah. I couldn't have them marrying, although that could have explained why Elizabeth never did marry, I suppose. I always had their last scene in my mind from when I first thought of the idea, so everything was always heading for that point.
I'm not sure who'd be more upset, present day Lucius or Arthur realising that they're related - heh heh heh.
Thank you so much for all your reviews. ~Carole~
Reviewer: silverlining95
Date: 02/28/13 15:09
Chapter: Chapter 5 - Love
Woah. I loved this story (and how quick you've been updating), it was such a fascinating coupling and I loved how much history was interwoven with the plot. But what I really, really loved was the curveball at the end. I did not see that coming at all! Actually, the thought did cross my mind when she named him Arthur but I was still caught completely off guard when all was revealed! Amazing. Sorry for the rubbish review but I'm still in shock! Oh how I'd love this to become canon!
Fenella
Author's Response: Thank you, Fenella. I updated quickly because I had it all written , plus it was for the Cotillion, so I needed it all posted before 1st March. I have to admit that I'm pleased the way this turned out. I'd had the idea before Christmas, but you know what it's like, most ideas never work or don;t turn out the way you think they will. This did deviate from the original idea as I discovered a lot more of the facts rather than relying on the film 'Elizabeth' but the end scene with Lucius was the first thing I thought of.
Thanks again for reviewing ~Carole~
Reviewer: Gmariam
Date: 02/27/13 17:14
Chapter: Chapter 3 -Legilimens
This was really good! I looked up Thomas Seymour and Elizabeth and just had no idea something like that had happened to her. That Lucius picked it up through Legilimency after kissing her made it very sad. He seems to really like her, so I felt a bit bad for him at the end. And now there's another chapter for me to read tonight, and it sounds both fantastic and scary! This is so very cool. :)
~Gina :)
Author's Response: The Thomas Seymour 'affair' is chronicled in history, although no one is actually sure how far anything went. Kat Champernowne was in the Tower at the time when she made the allegations, and the Crown were certainly after any evidence against Seymour. However there were other statements made my servants not in the Tower. The other thing about Kat's statement is that she implicated the Dowager Queen (Catherine Parr) who was actually dead by then, so she didn;t have to name her, and it kind of makes me think there's some truth in it. It is fact that Elizabeth lived with them, and fact that Catherine Parr sent her back when she discovered Elizabeth in Thomas's arms.(arms might be a euphemism) He had wanted to marry Elizabeth, and was refused again when his wife died. *wipes brow* - Very condensed history there, but completely enthralling when I was reading about it - heh heh.
Thank you so much for the review, Gina. ~Carole~
Reviewer: Redwing
Date: 02/27/13 12:24
Chapter: Chapter 4 - Prisons
Man, I don't want to start rooting for Elizabeth and Lucius, because it can't work out. Or... maybe it can work out? Maybe Elizabeth never marries because she's carrying on a secret affair with Lucius, but can't marry him in the open? At the very least, I hope she gets to learn magic... Great story so far.
Author's Response: Mwahahahahah - well, the last chapter is up now, so you shall see whether it works out, secretly, or not. As far as magic goes, well she never got to Hogwarts, sadly. Apologies if this is too short, but I was writing for a challenge and it had to be under 15K. Perhaps I'll write a follow up :) Thanks again for your reviews ~Carole~
Reviewer: Ruchira_M
Date: 02/27/13 8:07
Chapter: Chapter 1 ~ Pavone Bianco
I haven't watched Elizabeth, but I read Kenilworth by Walter Scott, there he shows Dudley as a nobleman favoured by the Queen who marries Amy in secret and then refuses to acknowledge her because he wants to marry the QUEEN.
Author's Response: Ahh, well, the historical record show that she was at his wedding, so I think he's stretching the truth a little. In Elizabeth, she doesn't know he's married. Amy actually died in 1560, which left him free to marry Elizabth except the rumour was he'd arranged for her murder. It would also have been an unpopular move on Elizabeth's part. And I could go on about this for another 1000 words - ha ha - as the history of this obsesses me rather, but I won't. :D Thank you ~Carole~
Reviewer: Ruchira_M
Date: 02/27/13 7:58
Chapter: Chapter 4 - Prisons
Intense chapter. And I like this Lucius a lot more than I expected to, seeing that he is the ancestor of the Lucius we know.
Dudley and Amy Robstart...umm, that would be the novel- Kenilworth, right? Although in that one they married when E was already queen and it was clandestine...but I suppose Scott took liberties...
I liked King Edward.
Author's Response: Um, I don;t know any of the novels. History states that Robert married Amy in 1550 when Elizabeth was sventeen. She went along with Edward VI. He did marry someone in 1578 called Lettice Knollys, who was the Queen's cousin, but not sure if that's the subject of Scott's novel, Basically the Elizabeth film took a lot of liberties with the facts as well. I've tried to be a little more accurate, but it's quite hard at times. Thank you for the review. ~Carole~
Reviewer: Ruchira_M
Date: 02/26/13 22:52
Chapter: Chapter 2 - The Falcon's Daughter
An interesting look at Anne. I don't think "The Other Bolyen Girl" was very kind to her.
Author's Response: I've not actually read The Other Boleyn Girl, or seen the film, so can't really comment on that. I'm ambivalent about Anne, but don't think she deserved death. Thank you for the review. ~Carole~
Reviewer: Gmariam
Date: 02/23/13 17:42
Chapter: Chapter 2 - The Falcon's Daughter
Oooh, Elizabeth has magic! That's really neat. I could really picture that scene with Lucius and the flowers and her screaming reaction, it was well done. And I'm still loving Kat as a character. Lucius was a bit snotty at the beginning but not so bad later on, as he seems to have a genuine interest in Elizabeth beyond what his mother is forcing.
The last line was sort of heartbreaking. I think what's so amazing is how from the teeny tiny bit I know of Elizabeth, you seem to have extrapolated her character back to childhood wonderfully well. I am really enjoying reading this.
One question, as I know you've researched it all: why was Elizabeth deemed illegitimate and stripped of being a Princess?
Great job!
~Gina :)
Author's Response: Ah, okay. Her father married Anne Boleyn (her mother) having divorced his previous wife (Catherine of Aragon) without the Pope's assent. He then set up the Protestant religion so he could marry Anne. When he decided he wanted to marry someone else (Jane Seymour, mother of Edward VI), he declared his previous two marriages null and void. Elizabeth and Mary were deemed illegitimate and were not allowed to hold the title of princess. Infact, after the age of three (when her mother was executed), Elizabeth was not deemed to be a Princess.
End of history lesson. Glad you're enjoying it and I hope the historical facts don;t put you off - eeeep. Oh, and Lucius is a Malfoy - of course he's a bit of a git - hahhahahahah. ~Carole~
Reviewer: Gmariam
Date: 02/18/13 21:08
Chapter: Chapter 1 ~ Pavone Bianco
I LOVE THIS! I know nothing about this period, have read next to no historical fiction, not even watched a tv show or movie really and I LOVED IT! It is so cool! Like, I totally believe it, 100 percent.
Amazing things about this story: young Elizabeth. Love love love. So vibrant and strong. Her reaction to Lucius was just priceless.
Also, the Malfoys. You made them less hateful than our modern Malfoys, even while maintaining their obvious ambition. And the white peacock! Wow! Is that what Pottermore said too?
And Kat - a magical governess! How very Mary Poppins (whom I have always thought was a witch from Hogwarts - likely good friends with Dumbledore, too.) But she, as well as all your other characters, immediately leapt off the page.
I had no idea what to think when you claimed this pairing and I'm so excited to follow it now. Amazing job, Carole. Really amazing. I hope it gets more reads and reviews! Good luck!
~Gina :)
Author's Response: You really should read about the era, Gina, it's fascinating. I had a strong interest in this period when I was about 7, and then studied it at school, and there's so much intrigue going on. Elizabeth was avery remarkable Queen, as well.
Okay, so Pottermore doesn't mention the peacock, but the birds were around in Tudor times (they used to eat them - shudder), but I decided to include it as a link to the Lucius we know. Having the emblem come from Lucius's mother made more sense (plus the blonde hair). The Pottermore story is that the Malfoys were prominent at the Tudor Court (I won;t tell you the exact details as it will ruin part of the story). This is all before the Statute of Secrecy, and the Malfoys enjoyed mixing with highborn Muggles. They change they mind and deny this a century later when the Statute is brought in.
Kat Champernowne dis exist and was a very close confidante of Elizabeth's and had a profound influence on her, which is why I've included her and made her magic :)
Thank you so much for the review ~Carole~
Reviewer: FearlessFlyer
Date: 02/18/13 20:55
Chapter: Chapter 1 ~ Pavone Bianco
Intriguing premise. There was much more room for wizarding influence on society before the Statute of Secrecy, and since I'm a big fan of historical fiction, I'm looking forward eagerly to see where you go with this.
Author's Response: Thank you so much. This is based on Pottermore canon, but as I find the Tudor history fascinating I'm trying to keep it as factual as possible (which is causing some problems). There's so much story - ha - it's hard knowing what to leave out. ~Carole~
Reviewer: CanisMajor
Date: 02/18/13 20:11
Chapter: Chapter 1 ~ Pavone Bianco
I like it. I don't know whether you could get away with sending Elizabeth to Hogwarts, but if not, I'm sure you have something just as interesting planned for her. How long is this story going to be?
One quibble: the year is 1643? Surely you mean 1543?
Author's Response: AGHH! Yes, I do mean 1543 - thank you so much for pointing that out! I have all the dates on my timeline in front of me then muck up when it comes to the summary - hahahaha. Thank you so much for the review. I know you're an excellent historical writer so I hope the rest of the story passes muster. Hmm, Elizabeth at Hogwarts would be interesting, but, alas there's too much data for her being around during her teens to make it feasible. Okay, this story is for a challenge, so it has to be under 15K, so I'm working on around the 5 chapter mark. However, I'm becoming increasingly fascinated by the Tudors (which I hadn;t really looked at since school) so there's a strong chance that this will be the first part of a story about her.
Thank you so much for the review and for pointing out my ridiculous error!
~Carole~
Reviewer: Ruchira_M
Date: 02/18/13 7:09
Chapter: Chapter 1 ~ Pavone Bianco
Good start.
Author's Response: Thank you. ~Carole~