Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: NEWTs to be a Healer

  1. #1
    Second Year Ravenclaw
    Beset by Owls
    U-No-Poo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Following the butterflies too!
    Posts
    42

    NEWTs to be a Healer

    Hi everyone! *waves cheerfully*

    I'm currently writing a story where the main character is having a conversation about their NEWT choices and qualifications. The main character wants to be a Healer. Searching through this forum, I found information for me to use regarding the number of subjects a student can do, but none whatsoever about what NEWT subjects an aspiring Healer would need to take at Hogwarts. Is this mentioned in canon? If not, what subjects would you assume that they'd need?

    Thanks muchly,
    Jordana.




    Back from a ridiculously long hiatus.

  2. #2
    Seventh Year Gryffindor
    First Brush With A Dementor

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    903
    This is in OOTP, Chapter 29 "Career Advice":

    "Well, I don't fancy Healing," said Ron on the last evening of the holidays. He was immersed in a leaflet that
    carried the crossed bone-and-wand emblem of St. Mungo's on its front. "It says here you need at least an E at
    N.E.W.T. level in Potions, Herbology, Transfiguration, Charms, and Defense Against the Dark Arts. I mean ...
    blimey. ... Don't want much, do they?"
    You could probably get additional credit if you did something like Care of Magical Creatures too (for the Bites and Stings Ward), but five NEWTs are plenty, I think. In general, if you want to give your character any additional subjects, I'd go more in the practical direction, because I don't think you'll need something like History, Astronomy or Arithmancy as a Healer... Actually, Runes and Divination would probably be useless most of the time, too, and then I think you're down to the five subjects on their list, and CoM.
    This completely gorgeous banner, which makes me happier than a squirrel, was made by Hokey

  3. #3
    ohviolet
    Guest
    Karaley pretty much said it all!
    I think students may only be able to take five NEWT subjects though - I know definitely here we can only take five subjects at most at Higher level as we get longer periods and more work to complete. If it's the same system then I would think the ones mentioned above would be the only ones taken/needed.
    If not though, I also feel it would be suitable to take Arithmancy. Is that not supposed to be the magical equivalent of maths? This might be applicable to a job as a Healer, as maths is needed to get into medical school in the Muggle world.

  4. #4
    psijupiter
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by ohviolet
    Karaley pretty much said it all!
    I think students may only be able to take five NEWT subjects though - I know definitely here we can only take five subjects at most at Higher level as we get longer periods and more work to complete. If it's the same system then I would think the ones mentioned above would be the only ones taken/needed.
    The maximum number of A-Levels is also 5, though most people will take 3 or 4. Five tends to be the upper limit because of the way the school day is organised - there are 5 hour long lessons in a day, so 25 in a week, and each subject at A-Level has 5 lessons a week to cover all the material.

    Very driven students might be able to take a sixth if they take it early or study in their own time. At a boarding school like Hogwarts that actually wouldn't be too difficult to do, as long as there was a teacher willing to take the time out and help you. For my GCSEs (OWL equivalants) I took two extra by studying during lunchtimes and after school, and I wasn't at boarding school, where pupils would be around in the evenings and weekends.

    If not though, I also feel it would be suitable to take Arithmancy. Is that not supposed to be the magical equivalent of maths? This might be applicable to a job as a Healer, as maths is needed to get into medical school in the Muggle world.[/QUOTE]

    I would agree. From the list they give it seems clear that Healer's are very much like Doctors in our world - there is a high demand for places and applicants are expected to be hard working with excellent grades. Going on what they tell people who want to go into medicine in our world, outside of the five they ask for I would definitely suggest something like Arithmacy or perhaps History - something very academic to show that you are intelligent, hard working and have have good critical or problem solving skills. I would think even CoMC would be frowned upon as being to vocational/practical, and you would learn about poisons/stings etc in Potions, and in DADA, which covered Dark Creatures.

  5. #5
    Seventh Year Gryffindor
    First Brush With A Dementor

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    903
    Welllll I disagree about the ComC thing (obviously, haha). Do they really learn a lot about stings and bites in Potions? I never really got that impression... And then Herbology is much more practical than theoretical too, and that's a required subject. And not only dark creatures can hurt you. I can imagine lots of accidents with seemingly harmless magical creatures that would require a witch/wizard to consult a Healer...

    And I'm not sure about History. I mean, yeah, it probably would at least show them that you have the endurance to bite your way through Professor Binns' lessons (I think we ca n assume that everyone who's hiring Healers has learned History from Binns), but it wouldn't be of any real use to you in your job as a Healer. You can show your ability to solve problems etc. through other subjects too (probably better than in History).
    This completely gorgeous banner, which makes me happier than a squirrel, was made by Hokey

  6. #6
    Wizengamot Hufflepuff
    Kill the Spare
    Equinox Chick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    using rare and complicated words
    Posts
    2,983
    I think students may only be able to take five NEWT subjects though
    Hermione takes seven subjects to NEWT level. Ron and Harry take five (DADA, Herbology,Potions, Charms, Transfiguration), and she adds Arithmancy and Ancient Runes. (From HBP ch The Half-Blood Prince)

    Arithmancy is supposed to be the mathematics surrounding the making of spells (if that makes sense) - so it could be very useful if you were a Healer eager to innovate.
    Ancient Runes ... I've always seen that as the wizard equivelnet of Latin which is a dead language but one that's used in medical jourmals all the time. I could see it being useful in the HP Healer world - especially in the field of research.

    ~Carole~
    I'm a BARMAID. I write. I drabble. I duel. I poet. I'm a BADGER!!!

    Banner by minnabird

  7. #7
    Seventh Year Gryffindor
    First Brush With A Dementor

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    903
    OH and then perhaps if this is Next Gen or something, Muggle Studies would be good because they might be broadening their horizon - think of Arthur's healer and the stitches. That didn't work out too well that time, but it was a good idea, and there definitely is room for some Muggle medicine even in the wizarding world.

    Looks like you can find a possible use for every subject... except Divination. Or maybe in particularly bad cases, they would want you to diagnose your patient through their tea leaves... but probably not.
    This completely gorgeous banner, which makes me happier than a squirrel, was made by Hokey

  8. #8
    psijupiter
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Karaley Dargen
    Welllll I disagree about the ComC thing (obviously, haha). Do they really learn a lot about stings and bites in Potions? I never really got that impression... And then Herbology is much more practical than theoretical too, and that's a required subject. And not only dark creatures can hurt you. I can imagine lots of accidents with seemingly harmless magical creatures that would require a witch/wizard to consult a Healer...

    And I'm not sure about History. I mean, yeah, it probably would at least show them that you have the endurance to bite your way through Professor Binns' lessons (I think we ca n assume that everyone who's hiring Healers has learned History from Binns), but it wouldn't be of any real use to you in your job as a Healer. You can show your ability to solve problems etc. through other subjects too (probably better than in History).
    That's true, Herbology is quite practical. The thing about stings and bites would mostly be learning about poisons and antidotes, which is very potions-y. Learning how to deal with non-poisonous bites and the practical side of dealing with bites is something that would be taught in CoMC, but only for first aid, and actually learning how to deal with them properly would be taught to you once you are training to be a Healer. That said, I can definitely see the argument that it would be useful! I suppose it is up to the individual pupils to convince the Healers that whatever subject they took is applicable to the training.

    The reason I said History, is because I have seen people say it is a good fourth or fifth A-Level for people who want to go into medicine. It shows that you can look for evidence, evaluate the worth of the evidence, analyise it and then draw upon a variety of sources and evidence to reach a conclusion, which are valuable skills for someone in a scientific career. Obviously though, that version of History has nothing to do with how Binns teaches it!

  9. #9
    Wizengamot Ravenclaw
    You idiot! Always playing the Hero!
    OliveOil_Med's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    My fanfiction notebook broke!
    Posts
    1,547
    For a Healer who specialized in the treatment of werewolve, Astronomy would probably also be of good use. A Healer who could predict when a werewolf would transform down to the minute would probably be a very highly sought-out person.

    But I agree that a knowledge of Herbology could be of great use, especially for Healers who experiment in the creating their own medicine. Knowledge of the medicinal properties of plants and their chemical composition could be very useful to a Healer. Doctors in Muggle society often experiment with combining different drugs to gain different effect, so it makes sense that Healers would do this as well.

    For this reason, I also feel like Care of Magical Creatures would be useful for much the same reason. I'm certain that different parts of magical creatures have medicinal properties as well, and some may even want to help raise their own creatures so they could harvest these parts themselves.

    Brand New Story!

    Banner by lullaby_BANG. Completely awesome avi came from here!

    My brand new trailer for Snape Didn't Die by thegirllikeme to serve as a constant source of inspiration whilst I write!

  10. #10
    Second Year Ravenclaw
    Beset by Owls
    U-No-Poo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Following the butterflies too!
    Posts
    42
    Hey guys!

    I'm amazed at the numbernf responses that this little thread's gotten! I've chosen the subjects and all I need now is your opinion kn them!

    My character will do 6 NEWTs - Potions, Herbology, Transfiguration, DADA, Arithmancy and Charms. Potions, Herbology and Transfiguration are obvious, DADA for being able to reverse curses and stuff, Arithmancy
    because of the mathmatical skills and Charms because of the usefulness of some of the charms, eg - wrap bandages.

    It's a toss up between the last one and CoMC -
    give me your opinions on all of my selections, please!

    ~ Jordana




    Back from a ridiculously long hiatus.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •