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    I have been having a lot of my more recent thoughts leaning towards the subject of werewolves. For instance, does the Ministry of Magic have department that registers and keeps track of all werewolves? What do you suppose the penelty would be for not reporting a condition of lycanthropy?

    What about Muggles who are bitten by werewolves? I assume that since all that in necessary is a bite from a werewolf to become infected yourself that Muggles can become werewolves just as wizards do. How would the Ministry find these people? How do you think Ministry involvement would differ if it were a Muggle who was affected by this condition? Would they be subject to the same laws a regulations as wizards would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveOil_Med
    I have been having a lot of my more recent thoughts leaning towards the subject of werewolves. For instance, does the Ministry of Magic have department that registers and keeps track of all werewolves? What do you suppose the penelty would be for not reporting a condition of lycanthropy?
    I would presume the Ministry would have something like this in the Department of the Control of Magical Creatures or something like that. I expect the penalties for not registering yourself as a werewolf would not be good - probably some time in Azkaban for potentially putting lives at risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by OliveOil_Med
    What about Muggles who are bitten by werewolves? I assume that since all that in necessary is a bite from a werewolf to become infected yourself that Muggles can become werewolves just as wizards do. How would the Ministry find these people? How do you think Ministry involvement would differ if it were a Muggle who was affected by this condition? Would they be subject to the same laws a regulations as wizards would be?
    The Ministry of Magic is good at spotting magic performed on Muggles, but a werewolf bite has nothing inherently magical about it - there are no spells involved. I'm not exactly sure the Ministry of Magic would even know about Muggles being bitten until they hear some rumours or reports of werewolf activity in the Muggle world. They'd probably learn of Muggle werewolves eventually, but I doubt they'd know about them the moment they are turned into werewolves.

    As for Muggle werewolves the Ministry knows about... I think they would be treated like Squibs. They'd couldn't continue to live as a Muggle with lycanthropy, so I think they would have to be taken into the wizarding world where they can be regulated and controlled. But not having magical powers themselves (and werewolves to boot), they'd probably just be like Squibs, I suppose.

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    Alternatively, perhaps only wizards can become werewolves. Maybe Muggles bitten by werewolves just die.

    (It's the old population multiplication problem -- if you assume a werewolf goes on a rampage once a month, and will, on at least some of those months, end up mauling someone, and everyone who gets mauled transforms, you're going to have a lot of werewolves after a few years.)

    I believe (though I am not sure) that Rowling said that only wizards can become vampires. If that's the case, then it would make sense for this to be true of lycanthropy as well.

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    Alternatively, perhaps only wizards can become werewolves. Maybe Muggles bitten by werewolves just die.
    I don't know. I've looked through all the resources there are on Harry Potter werewolves and nothing says only wizards become werewolves; it just said 'human'. Maybe Muggles just have a greater chance of dying for the same reason why wizards are said to live longer than Muggles and don't get very many Muggle diseases.

    Also, I imagine that werewolves kill a great many of their victims since they seem to have such a taste for human flesh. Maybe the reason we don't see a great deal of werewolves is because there just isn't a very high survival rate for werewolf attacks of any kind. I doubt a werewolf will just bite you and leave.

    As to vampires, I have looked up the Harry Potter info there and the general concensis seems to be that we just don't know a lot about what vampires are portrayed as in the world of Harry Potter. We may end up just having to rely on other know legends to fill in the gaps for these creatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveOil_Med
    Also, I imagine that werewolves kill a great many of their victims since they seem to have such a taste for human flesh. Maybe the reason we don't see a great deal of werewolves is because there just isn't a very high survival rate for werewolf attacks of any kind. I doubt a werewolf will just bite you and leave.
    That is a good point. Perhaps wizards, being able to perform spells and just being innately magical would have better defenses against werewolves, in both being able to ward off the werewolf and surviving the bite. However, I still think that it is possible for Muggles to become werewolves.

    Now, I have a weird question...

    If we ignore the fact that the planet Mars has no breathable atmosphere and that people would die if left exposed to its environment, what do you think would happen if you were to transport a werewolf from Earth to Mars? How would the werewolf's transformation cycle be affected by the presence of two Martian moons with low albedo? Would these dark moons produce full moons, and do you think a werewolf on Mars would transform in accordance to phases of Phobos and Deimos? Or do you think all werewolves are tied to the phases of Earth's Moon, regardless of the werewolf's distance from Luna?

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    I think werewolf transformations are directly tied to Luna, as it appears to be a thing of powerful magic in the HP universe. I doubt that any moon would cause the same effect, after all Earth has other moons (objects much further away that orbit the earth to some extent) and I doubt they would affect werewolves at all. I also think that werewolf transformatons, since they depend on the phases of the moon, would depend on how the moon is visible from Mars, if at all. Mars is visible from Earth on some nights, so Earth would be visible from Mars, but I'm not sure about the Moon.

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    Luna? Do you mean the moon or the lunar calander? Because blaiming the condition of lycanthropy entirely on Luna Lovegood seems a bit harsh to me.

    But it does make you wonder: what is it about the full moon the cause the werewolf's transformation? I know that the legend is so old that there is probably no answer to this, but does anyone care to take a stab at it?

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    Double posting to renew this thread to ask another point. I have been having this insane story circling in my head recently, but I need a few canon points cleared up before I can begin writing it.

    About how much power do you think the Ministry would have to control a werewolf who was really a Muggle when they weren't in their wolf state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveOil_Med
    About how much power do you think the Ministry would have to control a werewolf who was really a Muggle when they weren't in their wolf state?
    The Ministry can do pretty much anything they want to to Muggles. The question is, how much will they do?

    Assuming a relatively benevolent Ministry, this seems like one of those rare things they'd cooperate with Muggle authorities over. Of course they're not going to tell the Muggles, "This person is a werewolf" (unless you make up some kind of special branch of MI-5 that deals with the wizarding world), but we know they were able to get the Muggles to broadcast wanted posters for Sirius Black.

    So I suspect they'd have Muggle werewolves put on watch lists, so the Muggles could tell them the person's whereabouts and the wizards would know where s/he is around full moons. The Muggle law enforcement officers watching the person would probably think they're under surveillance for suspected criminal or terrorist activity, or for their own protection.

    It's also going to depend on how much you think wizards would tell a Muggle werewolf. If the werewolf knows all about his condition, and the wizarding world, and is cooperative, they might just set up convenient "holding facilities" for him to come to every month. (They might also do this without telling him that they're wizards -- he might believe he's just dealing with a special Lycanthropy Unit of the MI-5 or something.)

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    Do you think there are any checks and balances in place in terms of just how much influence the Ministry can have over Muggles? It seems a bit onesided for the Ministry of Magic to have say over what happens in a Muggle werewolf's life when they have no real power in the wizarding government...although I don't suppose that makes them very different from wizarding werewolves then.

    Just how much do you think the Ministry of Magic wold allow the Muggle werewolf to know about the wizarding world? Or do you think it would be just like Invararity said and they would only tell them that they were a secret division within the goverment devoted to werewolves? Can you imagine how well a person would have to be versed in Muggle Studies and Magical Creatures to have these jobs, and how much research the Ministry would have to do in order to pull off this ruse?

    Also, a side-note in my story's plot, which countries do you think would be the strictest about their werewolf regulations: Britain, France, United States, Mexico, Bahamas, Donincan Republic, Colombia? How do you think different countries would differ in opinions and possible laws when it comes to werewolves?

    Also, I feel like I might be straying a bit off-topic, but does anyone know of any werewolf-like legends other than the classic ones based on the Harry Potter werewolves. I have been studying the Navajo concept of Skinwalkers and trying to think of ways to incorperate it into my story. But anyway, can anyone think of anything?

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