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    Hi- I'm just wondering how abstract Boggarts could be/ what sounds stupid. Like Hermione's fear of failure was shown by Professor McGOnagall telling her she'd failed her tests, and Harry's fear of fear was shown by the dementors. But what about other "concepts" as opposed to exact things?

    Like one of my characters fears failure and being trapped in a monotonous cycle. Now at the moment I've got this being him trying to push a rock up a slope, and the rock falling down before he reaches the top. Is this too stupid/ abstract? Any other possible suggestions?
    ANy help/ advice would be great thanks!
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    The rock falling on him is his BOGGART? Is that what your saying? Or are you saying that the rock falling on him is HAPPENING to him? I can help you if you clear that up for me.

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    I like the reference to Sisyphus, but I don't think this would be a very good Boggart. Remember, a Boggart is supposed to scare you senseless - I don't think watching a little man push a boulder up a mountain (by the way, where will the mountain come from?) and failing every time would be very terrifying. This Boggart doesn't have much instantaneous shock impact - you'll have to watch the Boggart do its cycle all the way through, and how long will that take? A minute? It might even be boring.

    Here's a suggestion for the concept of "failure" - how about the Boggart simply transforms into an older version of the character, but as a drunk, repulsive low-life homeless person who begs his younger self for money? I think that would be quite shocking.

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    I'd forgotten about the slowness of it- you're right it would be boring, unless they were forced to watch it, but that doesn't really apply to boggarts. I really like the idea of a drunk and homeless beggar representing failure, thanks for that!

    Anyone else with any ideas for monotony?

    Also as a general question how would you portray a doctrine? Like racism/ prejudice, possibly Death Eaters but what about before them? Just wondering

    Harry_Potter4life- I mean he is trying to push the rock up a hill, and cannot push it to the top, but has to try and do it again and again (hence monotony). It is, as Tim the Enchanter pointed out, an idea referenced (or stolen ) from the greek myth of Sisyphus, whose punishment in Hades was to push a rock up a hill, and never be able to get it over the top. Can't remember why- just looked it up and it was for defying the laws of hospitality/ greed/ defying the gods amongst other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by welshdevondragon
    Also as a general question how would you portray a doctrine? Like racism/ prejudice, possibly Death Eaters but what about before them? Just wondering
    "Prejudice" and "racism" is pretty abstract, and I think there cannot be any generic Boggart form for either. It would depend on the individual person, in my opinion. For example, a Muggle-born who survived through the Voldy wars might have Lord Voldemort or a Death Eater be a Boggart, or perhaps somebody demanding that he/she give away his/her wand because as a Muggle-born he/she had supposedly stolen it from a Pureblood wizard/witch.

    As for racism, the same rule applies - it depends on what the individual person is and what his/her personal experiences with prejudice are.

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    Oh, now I understand. I kind of like the idea of him having to keep pushing it up over and over again.

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    We were discussing Dementors the other day in our MWPP class, and we came to the conclusion that instead of causing a person to relive his/her worst memory, they could also bring back horrible feelings. The example we used was James Potter being lost in Diagon Alley. If a Dememtor would've cornered him after that, it could've just made him feel panicked and frightened. I know it's not exactly the same thing, but maybe the same prinicple applies. Could the boggart just transform into a feeling, or does it have to be something material? I think that's the question we should be asking.

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