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    The Founders And Wands

    I've been looking everywhere but it doesn't say so I'll ask if anybody knows. Is there a Canon wand core and length for the Founders. If not, which ones do you think they would be? I would be really grateful for the help!

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    la_vie_boheme
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    There's nothing that I know of in the cannon about the Founder's wand cores or lengths.
    I think that Gryffindor would have a phoenix feather core, Slytherin would have dragon heartstring (same as Lucius, Peter, Bellatrix), Hufflepuff would have unicorn tail hair (Neville, Ron and Cedric had that), I'm not sure what Ravenclaw's would be, I'd guess either unicorn or dragon heartstring.
    Lengths are very subjective and I have no idea what each length would be or what wood each would use.

    EDIT: I meant that lengths would be hard to tell because we don't know how tall the founders were.

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    Actually, lengths appear to be based on height. Ron (14 in.) and Hagrid (16 in.) were tall, and Umbridge's wand was described as "stubby". Other wands tend to fit this pattern.

    As to woods, OliveOil_Med researched some for the "Wand Cores" thread ( http://fanfiction.mugglenet.com/foru...ad.php?t=22021 post #7) which should give you a general idea about the woods.

    Hope this helps!

    -Kelly

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    I have this idea that the Founders didn't have wands. I don't think there is anything really stated in canon about this. I believe that in the Founders' era, magic was more concentrated. Over time the purebloods have mixed with more and more Muggles so the magic is diluted. Wands only really harness and use the magic all ready found in the witch/wizard themselves. In modern time (Harry's time), wands are needed to harness this power. In the Founder's time, it was optional.

    Although there were Muggleborns in the Founders' era, there weren't as many (in my opinion). Wands would be necessary for the Muggleborns, and possibly Half-Bloods, but not the Purebloods.

    That's my opinion, anyway.

    ~~Azhure~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azhure
    I have this idea that the Founders didn't have wands. I don't think there is anything really stated in canon about this. I believe that in the Founders' era, magic was more concentrated. Over time the purebloods have mixed with more and more Muggles so the magic is diluted. Wands only really harness and use the magic all ready found in the witch/wizard themselves. In modern time (Harry's time), wands are needed to harness this power. In the Founder's time, it was optional.

    Although there were Muggleborns in the Founders' era, there weren't as many (in my opinion). Wands would be necessary for the Muggleborns, and possibly Half-Bloods, but not the Purebloods.

    That's my opinion, anyway.

    ~~Azhure~~

    That is a really cool idea, Azhure and it's very possible that wands weren't very common in that era, but we do know in canon that wands were being made much earlier than that.

    From Sorcerer's Stone, American edition page 32:

    Peeling gold letters over the door read Ollivanders: Makers of Fine Wands since 382 B.C.
    I like the idea that wands were just coming into fashion in that time and not everyone had one. That's neat!

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    Lyratearsx
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    I agree. After all, in all the legends about Merlin he never had a wand. Was it a staff he used?

    IDEA ALERT!

    "If you are any wizard at all you will be able to channel your magic through almost any instrument." Ollivander, DH
    Note he didn't say wand.

    So, what if they used the items that were later Horcruxes (or if Gryffindors case, the sword)?

    That could work and definately would be different.

    ~Lyra

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    I agree with all the proposed core for the founders that la_vie_boheme suggested. I was also looking through the research I did on wood cores and found a few possibilities.



    Godric Gryffindor:

    Chestnut:
    Chestnut wands tend to choose the witch or wizard who has a strong connection with their past - whether for good or ill. These wands are especially good for luck or love spells and excel at Charms work. These wands tend to choose a strong male but, of course, will sometimes choose strong females as well. Either way the bearer of a chestnut wand usually possesses the capability of being a great leader.

    Elder:
    A waterside tree, the Elder has white flowers that bloom to their peak in midsummer. Elder wands are very good for protective spells, as well as sleeping charms. These wands tend to choose those whose heart may seem almost too big, and who have a strong set of morals, particularly when it involves those weaker than themselves.
    Elder's personality is Intelligent
    Element: Earth

    Holly:
    Holly is the strongest of the protective woods. It is used to guard against evil in fact Holly means "holy". Holly wands excel at combat, defense, and protection spells. It is also useful in glamour's and warding. This wand tends to pick an owner who's brave and pure of heart, not to mention has a high intelligence.
    Holly's personality is Determined
    Element: Fire

    Oak:
    Oak is a potent magical wood and adds potency to all charms, particularly health and money charms. The Oak is the tree of endurance and triumph, and tends to choose those who are strong not only physically or mentally, but also emotionally as well. The Oak is a male wood, so the female bearer may be more masculine than her peers. Oaks also stands for endurance, triumph, strength, power, dominion, prosperity, sacrifice, guardian and liberator and symbolizes wisdom, strength, and endurance. These wands excel in spells involving strengthening charms or wisdom seeking, as well as being good for Transfiguration work.
    Oaks personality is Fatherly
    Element: Fire


    Helga Hufflepuff:

    Rosewood:
    Rosewood wands are rare because these wands tend to be very picky. A Rosewood wand tends to choose one who has a deep inner peace or spirituality, which considering it excels at Love charms is probably a good thing. Rosewood wands are also good for healing magic as well.

    Teak:
    Teak is a feminine tree, and as such wands made from it tend to choose female bearers or else those with a feminine side, especially those who are considered to have a pure spirit or else who may be almost child-like. A teak wand is especially good at protective spells as well as healing and love charms, not to mention cheerfulness charms..
    Teak's personality is Wise
    Element: Water

    Tulip:
    Tulip is a very feminine wood, and often chooses females or those with a natural caring nature, often considered to have a natural motherly personality. Tulip wands are excellent for shield and protection charms, as well as comforting magic.


    Rowena Ravenclaw:

    Birch:
    With the exception of the mysterious elder, the Birch is the earliest of the forest trees. Though they make beautiful, smooth wands with a nice sheen if polished, birch is nevertheless known for it's 'flaky' qualities. The bearer of this wand could not be more different, in fact those who find a Birch wand has chosen them tend to be some of the most logical thinkers or strategists. These wands excel at driving out evil spirits, and for Purification spells. They are also very good for spells involving structures, support, shielding, warding, and cleansing.
    Birch's personality is Happy
    Element: Air

    Olive:
    Olive wands tend to choose the witch or wizard who possess above average intelligence, not to mention often an overactive imagination. Olive wands are also a favorite of healers and are especially good not only for healing but also for protective spells. Many believe the bearers of Olive wands to be good at decision making - but this is not necessarily so. The owner of an olive wand may be decisive but that does not mean their decisions are the right ones. On the other side of the coin they may be so busy worrying about what is right that they are unable to ever reach a conclusion.
    Olive's personality is peaceful


    Salazar Slytherin:

    Ebony:
    Ebony is a fine-quality, rather costly dark wood that is hard and durable. It also carries a beautiful black luster when polished, radiating a certain air of cold-shouldered class and expensive taste. This wand-holder is usually rather stubborn and shuns outsiders, remaining rather secretive of their core being. They also tend to be natural born leaders, commanding respect even if grudgingly. Ebony is the most powerful wood used in wands, and can give the user what may seem to be unlimited power.

    Hawthorn:
    Hawthorn is one of the three sacred Irish trees (along with Oak and Ash) and its wands have what could be considered a dual personality. They produce strong spells for those to which they belong. Equally effective for Dark magic as it is for good, the possessor of this wand has the potential to wield great power. The duplicity of legend runs deep in the wood of the Hawthorn and therefore it is excellent for protective and defensive magic as well as Charms. Those who possess this wand usually have strong powers of divination and heightened intuition.
    Hawthorn's personality is passionate.
    Element: Fire

    Poplar:
    Poplar wands tend to choose the witch or wizard who is bound for success, but the bearer may also be a bit insecure and crave more than their fair share of the limelight. These wands excel at spells involving flying or money and luck spells.



    Also keep in mind that each house has it's own respective element as well. This might be useful when seleting your woods.

    Godric Gryffindor=Fire
    Helga Hufflepuff=Earth
    Rowena Ravenclaw=Air
    Salazar Slytherin=Water

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