I do think Phoebe is right when she says Gryffindors do not have to be loyal. Look at Peter Pettigrew. He obviously didn't turn out to be very loyal, but he was still in Gryffindor. Sure, some Gryffindors value loyalty and friendship. But those are more Hufflepuff traits than anything else. Sometimes I think people get this confused because we see Harry, Ron, and Hermione more than any other characters in the books, and they are all loyal and value friendship. While we do see some very strong friendships and loyalty from Gryffindors, not all of them are necessarily this way.Gryffindors do not have to be loyal.
However, I also disagree with Phoebe, because I definitely think Hermione belonged in Gryffindor and was not placed there just to be with Harry and Ron.
Ask yourself this. Why was Peter sorted into Gryffindor? He's not brave. He only looks out for himself and he's considered the most cowardly character in the books. But he was sorted into Gryffindor because he wanted to be. I feel that when it comes to sorting, the hat is more of a guide than anything else. You choose your house in the end.
The same goes for Hermione. She chose Gryffindor over Ravenclaw. In the fifth book, she mentions that the hat did consider putting her in Ravenclaw. And at the end of the first book, she confesses to Harry that bravery and courage mean more to her than books and intelligence. She was definitely Ravenclaw material, but in the end, she valued the Gryffindor traits more than anything else.
Beth: Good point. 5 points. - awarded