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    When do you think Neville likely took this job?
    I think it was probably whenever Professor Sprout retired. That could have been anywhere from two year after the final battle, but was more likely closer to ten - thirteen. However, I don't believe that it was Albus' first year was Neville's first year as, by the way that James was talking, it seemed like he was well acquainted with Neville, not just as a family friend, but also as a Professor. He seems well established in the status of a Professor, so that he probably had held it for a long time before James came - maybe three years or so before.

    Would he have asked for the post or do you think the Head (McGonagall?) offered it to him?
    I believe that Professor Sprout (who was likely the fondest of Neville when he was a student) would have probably recommended him, especially if he continued doing something with Herbology. He might have been a well established Herbologist, and I doubt after all he did during the final battle, that his name was something that would be easier forgotten among those had Hogwarts, so he would have probably been considered and offered the job. I don't really see him asking for it, though, for the simple fact that he always seemed to be very humble, and he would have felt honored when they considered him.

    Do you think his pre-Hogwarts Professor job would involve herbology in some way, given his interest for the subject?
    Yes, I think he would want to.. It seemed to be the one thing he truly loved and excelled at. It was his passion. However, I do think that he might have dabbled in something else for a bit - like training to be an Auror. I think that after all he did during the battle, his grandmother would have pressured him to follow in his parents' footsteps. He might have gone along with it for a while, thinking that maybe that was something he should do, but eventually (maybe after someone gave him some advise or he was offered the job at Hogwarts [probably the first]) he'd realize that he'd had quite enough of fighting and he would much rather follow his passion. After he confronted his grandmother, she would probably be understanding, would want him to do what made him happy--after all that he's done, I don't think she could stop being proud of him.

    What could likely be Neville's weaknesses?
    I don't think that his weakness would be anything physical. In the Ministry of Magic, we saw his gumption, his ability to fight teeth and nails, and yet he managed to be captured by the Inquisitorial Squad. But I always recall the line that one of the Inquisitorial Squad said upon bringing him in: "I caught this one [Neville] trying to help the Weasley girl." (being a HUGE Neville/Ginny shipper, I love that line.) And that, in itself is where his weakness lies. He has a huge heart, and his loyalty to others - though an extremely honorable trait - would be his weakness. All his enemies would have to do is attack one of his friends or his loved ones and he would protect them, even at the cost of himself.

    Also, I think that same desire to care for those he loves would lead him to be more timid. In his desire to make others happy, he would compromise himself, like the scenario I gave you about his grandmother and the Auror. However, I think this is something he would conquer or would only effect him slightly. But, yes, that's what his weakness would be.

    Hope that helped, Akay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEclipse
    What do you think makes Neville so courageous? In the *SPOILERS* end of DH he is very brave, and I thought it was totally odd.
    In DH, I fell in love with what Neville had become. I didn't see it as odd at all.

    When Neville came to Hogwarts, he kind of had this protective shell around him. He was kind of afraid of being courageous. Neville was so timid in the first few books. We rarely saw him show that Gryffindor spirit that many other Gryffies possess. He kind of hid it, like Hermione did in PS (SS for you Americans ) and a bit in COS. When Neville joined the DA, he sort of made room for courage. He didn't try to hide it or anything of that sort. It's hard to explain what I'm thinking. But, after the battle at the Ministry, he started to open up and he didn't necessarily become more brave, but he showed his bravery. After Harry didn't return to Hogwarts in DH, Neville kind of told himself that he could stop the Death Eaters. Harry wasn't there, so he convinced himself he had to do it. Then he became that true Gryffindor that was inside of him that he wouldn't let out, because he was afraid before. Do you get what I'm trying to say? It might sound like total hogwash, but it's hard to put it into words. Neville was hiding that bravery inside of him for fear of being daring. In DH, he really opened up and became the person that was trying to come out, I think. But maybe I'm just loony.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padfoot Patronus
    - When do you think Neville likely took this job?
    - Would he have asked for the post or do you think the Head (McGonagall?) offered it to him?
    - Do you think his pre-Hogwarts Professor job would involve herbology in some way, given his interest for the subject?
    - What could likely be Neville's weaknesses?
    1. I think Neville took the job when he was about twenty. Seems like a reasonable age for me, and Professor Sprout probably wouldn't retire a day after the battle. Over five years seems like too much to me, though.

    2. I think it was offered to him. Neville really thought highly of himself, and I couldn't ever see him asking for the job. He was so humble, like Thegirllikeme said. I think he was recommended for it by Professor Sprout.

    3. I don't think so. I think he was not really doing much before it, or perhaps he was working in a Herbology shop, if those exist. xD I can't see him doing anything big with Herbology before he became a teacher, though.

    4. That's a tough question. Neville's weakness could of been somewhat like Harry's. He'd defend those he loved or deeply cared about with his life. He might also be a bit of a push-over in classes. Poor Neville. Haha, but still, he might be kind of timid. I can't see him being extremely strict. He'd be a good teacher but he wouldn't put his foot down too fast.

    Hope I helped! Sorry my answers are so short and confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEclipse
    What do you think makes Neville so courageous? In the *SPOILERS* end of DH he is very brave, and I thought it was totally odd.
    I completely disagree that it was odd for him to be that brave in Deathly Hallows. After all, it was a pretty important part of PS/SS that Neville stood up to the Trio (albeit quickly losing that battle). It proved that Neville, though the butt of everyone's jokes and torment, had courage. Courage that was even recognised by Dumbledore at the end.

    Then (after having Neville as a minor, almost nonexistent character in CoS and PoA) he came back in GoF in the infamous imposter!Moody classroom scene. That scene did wonders for his character. It not only gave him depth, but imagine the courage to see exactly what your parents went through which drove them into insanity. Now imagine how you would have taken that. I know that I personally would have taken it a lot harder than Neville, much less have a casual tea with the man that showed it to me almost immediately afterward.

    OotP speaks for itself. I can't tell you how many times I've had to cite its final chapters when speaking of Neville's character, bravery and courage. This kid heard Bellatrix Lestrange threaten them with the Cruciatus Curse and pretty much said "Bring it on, *****!" How many Aurors, much less grown wizards, much less adolescent wizards his age, would have the courage to do that?

    Finally, how many of these "courageous" Gryffindors and "loyal" Hufflepuffs answered the call at the end of HBP? Aside of the Trio, Ginny Luna and Neville were the only ones to come and fight.

    Because of all that, it makes perfect sense that Neville would be at the level he was during DH. It makes sense that he would take Harry's leadership role back at Hogwarts, and that he would recall painful suffering of punishment with a nonchalant shrug.

    Quote Originally Posted by CakeorDeath
    What do you think he would be like as a dad?
    Ooooohhh, that's a tough one. Especially considering him being raised by his Gran. I'm not sure if he would be like his Gran, or try to be the opposite. It's clear his Gran was not a bad parent. She was strict, but she loved him and was extremely proud of him. that leads me to believe he might emulate his Gran when it comes to parenting. Although, his Gran might want to be in her great-grandchild's life (assuming she's still around, of course) so she might end up giving Neville parenting advice. Just some thoughts to work with, since I know this topic has been pretty well discussed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padfoot Patronus
    - When do you think Neville likely took this job?
    You have nineteen years to work with, since it doesn't say when Professor Sprout left her position, or when Neville was hired. Who knows, there might have been another professor in between who left for other options (or was fired >.>) Let's consult the Lexicon, shall we? Pamona Sprout's birthday is May 15, though a year is not provided. We do know that she has grey/flyaway hair, which could give the assumption that she is older. Now since she is working in a more hands-on, practical field than, say, transfiguration, it is easy to believe that she would retire earlier in age than McGonagall or Dumbledore.

    In this case it's really up for grabs. See, it's not hard to imagine Professor Sprout leaving a year or two after Year7's completion, in a sort of passing-of-the-torch fashion, but I think it would be a little more interesting to have her go on for . . . let's say ten years after Voldemort's fall. That sounds good, because it gives Neville some time out in the world, but still leaves enough time to become an established professor once the time of the epilogue rolls around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padfoot Patronus
    - Would he have asked for the post or do you think the Head (McGonagall?) offered it to him?
    - Do you think his pre-Hogwarts Professor job would involve herbology in some way, given his interest for the subject?
    Well...
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Potter Lexicon
    Career: Post-battle, worked in the Ministry for Kingsley Shacklebolt (PC/JKR1), then became Herbology professor at Hogwarts (DH/e).
    Everyone seems to be working for the Ministry these days! Why not have him working in an apothecary? His herbological skills seem well-prepared to handle it. Although, now that I think of it, it's a potions shop, and he was a little less than stellar in Potions . . . Maybe he could work for a potion ingredient company in sales. Or possibly working to research new plant properties/abilities/uses. There's a lot of possibilities when you brainstorm. We don't hear much about companies or research facilities in these books. I'd normally say to make up a wizarding university, since so much research is done at universities, but Jo has said there aren't any. But then again, we've only seen Wizarding Britain, and since many plants are indigenous elsewhere and not found in Britian, I can see Neville traveling to foreign nations to do research on their plantlife. It would also give a great setup to him being offered the position once Professor Sprout retires. (Note: I'm a sucker for AU, so that's where this is stemming from. You can write whatever you want, and can follow canon as much as you wish.)

    Well, it would obviously involve Herbology. I highly doubt he would want to be an Auror, and I can't see him working in a pub or a shop or something. Although I suppose you could make the latter work in a way. Say, he's out of school and he's in his third year of a job in Diagon Alley (or Hogsmeade, because obviously these are the only wizarding communities in Britian -__-) and he hates it and wants a better, Herbology-related job, and he finds out that Professor Sprout is retiring, and so upon visiting her, they talk and decide he could very well do the job, so she recommends him for the position. That seems just a bit too convenient for my personal taste, but it's still doable. With good characterisation and dialogue I'm sure it'd be a great read. See above for more ideas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padfoot Patronus
    - What could likely be Neville's weaknesses?
    CONFIDENCE! Above all else, Neville's weakness is his lack of confidence. It's the main reason why he was such a late-bloomer in the D.A., it is THE reason why he blew his shot at N.E.W.T. Potions . . . It is the one thing that hurts him the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHairedWeasley
    OotP speaks for itself. I can't tell you how many times I've had to cite its final chapters when speaking of Neville's character, bravery and courage. This kid heard Bellatrix Lestrange threaten them with the Cruciatus Curse and pretty much said "Bring it on, *****!" How many Aurors, much less grown wizards, much less adolescent wizards his age, would have the courage to do that?
    And let's give Neville his just due in this scene, shall we?

    Not only did Bellatrix threaten them, she specifically threatened Neville with the same treatment his parents had; she threatened to torture him into insanity, and Neville knew *exactly* how that would leave him.

    Yet there, with a broken nose, blood running down his face, and this psychotic sadist's wand at him, he screams at Harry not to give in to her. He would rather have been tortured into mindlessness or killed than let them have a small silver ball. Even HARRY was contemplating giving the Prophecy over.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHairedWeasley
    Ooooohhh, that's a tough one. Especially considering him being raised by his Gran. I'm not sure if he would be like his Gran, or try to be the opposite. It's clear his Gran was not a bad parent. She was strict, but she loved him and was extremely proud of him. that leads me to believe he might emulate his Gran when it comes to parenting. Although, his Gran might want to be in her great-grandchild's life (assuming she's still around, of course) so she might end up giving Neville parenting advice. Just some thoughts to work with, since I know this topic has been pretty well discussed.
    Eh, on Augusta, I disagree. She fits the description of a psychological torturer pretty well. It's one of the reasons I think Alice was in Hufflepuff, because it seems like Augusta always disregarded her, or kind of dismissed her, even though Alice, too, was an Auror. And granted, Frank was Alice's son, but she seems to have NO affection for Alice at all.

    That was my take on the scene, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegirllikeme
    Also, I think that same desire to care for those he loves would lead him to be more timid. In his desire to make others happy, he would compromise himself, like the scenario I gave you about his grandmother and the Auror. However, I think this is something he would conquer or would only effect him slightly. But, yes, that's what his weakness would be.
    But I don't think he would go as far as Remus did and turn a blind eye to what his friends/family were doing if he knew it was wrong. Look at PS/SS, he stood up to Hermione, Ron, and Harry despite being outnumbered and the pressure to simply stand aside and let things happen as they would. He had the courage to stand up for what he believed in, even if it might mean losing him a friend or two.

    So while he might change himself to make others happy, I don't think he would go so far as to cover for/participate in something that he knew to be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHairedWeasley
    Finally, how many of these "courageous" Gryffindors and "loyal" Hufflepuffs answered the call at the end of HBP? Aside of the Trio, Ginny, Luna, and Neville were the only ones to come and fight.
    I agree, this does say a lot about their courage and loyalty. One of the hardest things is to do something other than what the crowd is doing; if not for their personalities, they could have easily hung back like all of the other Gryffs and 'Puffs. But their personalities and their own life stories brought them into the fight with full force.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHairedWeasley
    CONFIDENCE! Above all else, Neville's weakness is his lack of confidence. It's the main reason why he was such a late-bloomer in the D.A., it is THE reason why he blew his shot at N.E.W.T. Potions . . . It is the one thing that hurts him the most.
    While I definitely agree that confidence is his weakness, I don't think it hurt him too much in the long run (and I don't mean to downplay his suffering, either). He stayed out of most of the limelight that so burned Harry when the Ministry and the Wizarding world did not believe him. He helped out the Trio when he thought they were doing the right thing, and built himself a foundation in his friendships so that his friends knew what they could rely on him for.

    His late-blooming confidence still led to him being a Herbology professor, which is completely his territory! I think being a professor is great for him; he has developed his confidence so that he can teach. He's reliable and is loyal-- we know that if something threatens his students, he will do the right thing. If anything, he just needed a little push in the right direction, to find what he would be good at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren
    While I definitely agree that confidence is his weakness, I don't think it hurt him too much in the long run (and I don't mean to downplay his suffering, either). He stayed out of most of the limelight that so burned Harry when the Ministry and the Wizarding world did not believe him. He helped out the Trio when he thought they were doing the right thing, and built himself a foundation in his friendships so that his friends knew what they could rely on him for.

    His late-blooming confidence still led to him being a Herbology professor, which is completely his territory! I think being a professor is great for him; he has developed his confidence so that he can teach. He's reliable and is loyal-- we know that if something threatens his students, he will do the right thing. If anything, he just needed a little push in the right direction, to find what he would be good at.
    I actually agree. I think you hit it right on the head. But I do think confidence (or lack thereof) would play a role in his teaching - and by that I mean the early years, when he was still learning how to teach. It's not hard to imagine Neville being nervous about it, or even going as far as denying his capability to competently run a course at Hogwarts. See, we all know his abilities, and as for as the battlefield is concerned his biggest weakness is not unlike Harry's (rushing in to fast, not fighting smartly, etc.), but as far as life is concerned, as far as everyday challenges, I'm absolutely positive that his level of confidence is his greatest weakness.

    But, as you said, he just needs a push in the right direction and he'll know what he's capable of. (cue Professor Sprout bustling in: "You're taking the position, and there's nothing else for it!" ...hehe)

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    Neville had so many problems to overcome, which he did, eventually and in his own way. I think the adult Neville would've been a great teacher and father because he could empathize with what kids go through, but his ego isn't so large that he would try to fix things.

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    Here's something I've been kicking around.

    There's little doubt in my mind that given the right situation, Harry would develop a drinking problem. (Admittedly, it would make a good bit of extra conflict to a fic.)

    Do you think Neville, whether or not under the most stressful/frustrating, etc. situations, would develop a drinking problem?

    I'm leaning toward yes, but it would depend on the situation.

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    I would find it hard to believe if Neville ever developed some sort of drinking problem. It's one of things that I just can't see him doing. He's a brave, intelligent individual who becomes a Hogwarts teacher, a profession that is held in the highest regard amongst witches and wizards. Neville proved himself capable of mentally handling extreme situations i.e. his parents insanity, the war with Voldemort, his school years where he was constantly bullied. Through all that, he never gave in and never backed down. Assuming the post Voldemort years were relatively calm, I don't see any reason why Neville would give in to alcoholism

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