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    FRENCH Culture Help

    With many post HBP stories dealing with the Bill/Fleur wedding, I'm sure that French culture will come into play, and we're sure to have questions about it. Pose those questions here.

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    Just what I was looking for!

    Can anyone explain the main and traditional elements of a French wedding? I mean items such as vows, wedding party, wedding gowns, the ceremony, family traditions, and any other type of thing that one might find if they would go to a French wedding.

    Thank you so much!

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    I would say that most French people have Catholic weddings; however, there really isn't much religion in HP, so I don't know how I would style it.

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    The thing is, Fleur is not just French - she's a French Witch. This means that you have to take into account things like what a wizard's wedding is likely to be like, as well as French marriage traditions.

    Most wtiches and wizards seem to be without a religion. I think this was done for a reason, by JKR, so as not to offend the religious people who would be upset if she tried to make magical people godly people as well...most Christian religions would not consider anyone who claimed to have a magical ability anything but a tool of the 'devil'.

    You'd need to take that into account, then, in writing the wedding. Fleur and her family are not likely to be Catholic, as the Catholic church in particular would, pardon the pun, crucify them. I know I'm treading on dangerous religious ground here, but I am not trying to offend anyone.

    If you feel that there must be some sort of religious ceremony, perhaps consider a Wiccan Handfasting. Wiccans consider themselves witches - this is why the Christian church frowns upon them. It makes sense to me that if you are going to have a religion for witches and wizards, either create one from scratch (which seems to happen in real life anyway sometimes) or use something that already exists and does not conflict with that religion's beliefs.

    Obviously, this is just a suggestion, and you are free to do the wedding however you like.

    Good Luck.

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    I've actually already looked up a lot into wizzard marriages, and did decide to do a version of handfasting. I had thought of that as well, about the good possibilty that Fluer and her family are not Catholic, but as they still are in France, they might have a few of the same traditions that Muggle French people do, minus the religious part of the ceremony.

    I like the idea of the cake. I'll ask my French teacher tomorrow if any little trinkets go in them; I know they put plastic babies in cakes for Mardi Gras, but they might put other little good luck charms in them.

    Is there anything else I should know before finalizing anything?

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    Although France is a mostly Catholic country, most of the French I know are not practicing Catholics, meaning they don't celebrate Mass every Sunday, observe holy days, etc. (This could just be the people I know however...)

    I'd imagine Fleur's wedding would have elements of Catholicsm, wizarding stuff, possibly bi-lingual... and plenty of wine, champagne, cheese chocolate... just French food in general. Mmm..

    Hope this helps...

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    The Half Blood Prince
    I've got a little bunny where Fleur and her family are those the fiction gyrates around. What I wondered was, how is a normal, quotidian breakfast made in France? Doesn't it mainly consist of croissant and tea and ...?

    Help would be very much appreciated.

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    When I was in France, the breakfast we were served was actually quite different than what you would be served elsewhere. They don't really eat waffles, pancakes, bacon, cereal, or things of that nature. Instead, every day we were served our choice of either hard rolls or soft breads (such as a croissant), butter and jam or jelly, and a hot drink such as coffee or hot chocolate or tea. Sometimes there would be fresh fruit, but it really is a simple meal.

    As a side note, breakfast is called petit dejeuner. (masculine)
    Bread= pain (m)
    Butter= beurre (m)
    but bread and butter= tartine (feminine)
    Jam= confiture (f)
    Coffee= cafe (m)
    Tea= the (m)
    Unfortunatly some of these have accents which I can't make the computer produce.

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    I stayed for a week with a French family, and they never ate croissants for breakfast. They had cereal with hot milk/coffee/hot chocolate drink poured over it, and when they finished the cereal they would pick up the bowl and drink what was left ( ). Other than that, they might have brioche (a sweet bread) with jam.

    This would be a modern, weekday breakfast for French people. More 'upper class' people might have croissants, pain au chocolat, that kind of thing.

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    Actually, coppercurls did mention that there were other kinds of breads served for breakfast. Perhaps the difference in breakfast between mooncalf and coppercurls has more to do with not only 'class' (which I don't think is really the case as what coppercurls wrote about is what I've always heard/learned about), but also has a lot to do with region and personal preference. The US has so many different breakfast styles thatyou can't pin down just one meal and say that's it. I do think that a general assumption could be made that the French breakfast cuisine is more simplistic.

    Just because I don't eat sausage or bacon every day doesn't mean that I never eat it. Maybe some people just don't like croissants...

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