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ron lover
08-02-2009, 22:43
When Voldemort summons the Death Eaters and their Mark burns, do they automatically go to where Voldemort is or do they have to Apparate there on their own?

I would think that they end up where Voldemort is right away, but I'm still not sure.

Tim the Enchanter
08-02-2009, 22:54
When Voldemort summons the Death Eaters and their Mark burns, do they automatically go to where Voldemort is or do they have to Apparate there on their own?

I would think that they end up where Voldemort is right away, but I'm still not sure.

The Death Eaters Apparate on their own. Remember, Karkaroff fled when he felt his Mark burn, and also in GoF, Severus Snape answered his summons after a delay of a few hours, abiding by Dumbledore's orders.

A proper Death Eater has to arrive at Voldemort's side as soon as his (or her) Mark burns, but the Dark Mark doesn't teleport people. They have to go on their own.

Tim the Enchanter

greennotebook
08-02-2009, 22:55
They would have to Apparate on their own, I'd think. Death Eaters can choose whether or not to return. In the GoF graveyard scene, a few DEs don't show. Snape chooses when he wants to return and Karkaroff runs away. If the summons automatically transported the DEs, Snape and Karkaroff couldn't have done that.

Edit: apparently, Tim beat me to the punch.

A.H.
08-02-2009, 22:56
I don't think they would automatically appear there. DEs like Lucius and Severus who were figures in the Wizarding society, couldn't afford to *poof* from a room at any given moment.

Examples I can think of are in GoF: Neither Severus or Kakoroff went to the graveyard when the Dark Mark burned, Snape to remain under cover and Kakoroff to flee. There were also several other DE's who tried to run when Voldy came back, so they weren't forced by the Mark to go anywhere.

That's not overly helpful, but I'm sure other folks have better examples/theories. :D

Edit: Heh, Greenie was a moment ahead of me. xD

Dinx_Skylarx
08-02-2009, 23:40
If you read the book and not watched the film, you will see Tom and Harry have a nice long chat before the DE's arrive.

The film spoils it by making them appear straight away, i hate the films!:mad:

Nez
08-03-2009, 01:11
Here, those are all perfect answers :D I think they don't actually need to know where he is to apparate straight to him; maybe kind of like it was with Ron and the deluminator; he had to Apparate himself, but the ball of light guided him to where he was going.

Momo Wellish
08-03-2009, 01:18
The DEs have to Apparate on their own, as many of you have mentioned in your posts about GoF, but also if they all were summoned to where Voldster was, then all of the DEs in Azkaban would have escaped the night Voldyshorts returned. Besides that, Voldy probably had at least 50 DEs that survived the first war and were roaming free at the time of his return, thus very few returned to him that night.

Dinx_Skylarx
08-03-2009, 07:56
Besides that, Voldy probably had at least 50 DEs that survived the first war and were roaming free at the time of his return, thus very few returned to him that night.
I think that was quite an exajuration, i don't think the first war was as big as the second, it wasn't even classed as a war, the only war we know of that is definately a war, is the Dubledore vs Grinelward.
So i'd estimate Tom would have around 20 or so DE's at the GoF graveyard scene, he only started gaining more and more when he returned. And we have to remember, he told us the names and who was missing, if there where more, Tom would have said.
maybe kind of like it was with Ron and the deluminator; he had to Apparate himself, but the ball of light guided him to where he was going.
The deluminator was given to Ron by Dumbledore and is therefore good magic, if the DE's had something like that, the ball of light would appear whenever Tom calls them, what if they are in the ministry??
I think that the DE's get a feeling of where he is, maybe the Dark Mark gives them a sign, or it guides them?

ron lover
08-03-2009, 20:27
Okay, thanks for the answers. I completly forgot about Karkaroff. I don't like the forth book much so I don't read it as often and I forget things :D

Nez
08-04-2009, 05:59
The deluminator was given to Ron by Dumbledore and is therefore good magic, if the DE's had something like that, the ball of light would appear whenever Tom calls them, what if they are in the ministry??

What I meant was that it might work similarly, it would guide them to wherever he is, so when they're Apparating they don't actually have to think of a destination. I agree; a magic ball of light wouldn't be Voldemort's style, and it could be inconvenient.

ron lover
08-10-2009, 21:17
I have another question. Do you think that the DE Dark Mark sort of gives Voldemort an idea as to where they are? Because every DE that Voldy tries to find is found but when Harry is hidding from them, they aren't found.

Tim the Enchanter
08-10-2009, 22:31
I have another question. Do you think that the DE Dark Mark sort of gives Voldemort an idea as to where they are? Because every DE that Voldy tries to find is found but when Harry is hidding from them, they aren't found.

Hmm?

I don't think the Dark Mark acts as any kind of homing beacon or anything. Otherwise, how would Karkaroff have managed to hide from his fellow Death Eater's for a year before being murdered?

But that brings me to another question. How do the DE's Apparate to Voldemort's side when they feel the mark burn? This seems to contradict the rules of Apparation, in which you have to concentrate on a specific destination in order to get there. "Wherever Voldemort is" is not a specific destination, and I can't really see how you can Disapparate to somewhere without actually knowing where you are going. Otherwise, Voldemort could have just Apparated to "wherever Harry Potter is" and the war would be over very quickly.

Tim the Enchanter